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		<title>By: The EMT Spot &#187; The Ultimate Guide to EMT Vital Signs</title>
		<link>http://theemtspot.com/2010/05/22/the-ultimate-emt-guide-to-vital-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-3927</link>
		<dc:creator>The EMT Spot &#187; The Ultimate Guide to EMT Vital Signs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 12:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] respiratory vital sign rounds out our &#8220;big three&#8221; vital signs. (Pulse and blood pressure being the other two.) It is, quite possibly, the most misunderstood and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The EMT Spot &#187; What Is An EMS Non-Conformist?</title>
		<link>http://theemtspot.com/2010/05/22/the-ultimate-emt-guide-to-vital-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-3744</link>
		<dc:creator>The EMT Spot &#187; What Is An EMS Non-Conformist?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rogue Medic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rogue Medic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the links.

I like to assess level of consciousness and both radial pulses at the same time as my initial assessments. Those two pieces of information can provide more information than most of the rest of the assessment. 

it amazes me how many people ask me what I am doing, when I am marking the pedal pulses on a patient who is, or will be, immobilized. While capillary refill is a secondary way of assessing circulation, it does not provide as much information as a pulse.

I am not a fan of using the brachial pulse for infants for two reasons. Most people have a hard time finding the brachial pulse on any patient and may assess this pulse less than once a year. Yes, we should assess the brachial pulse on every patient with the blood pressure, but how many people do you know who do that? With so little experience, will their assessment be worth much?

Kids tend to stress people out, so checking for an unfamiliar pulse &lt;b&gt;and&lt;/b&gt; checking on a child may be very stressful. Stress and tactile skill often do not go together.

&lt;b&gt;And&lt;/b&gt; otherwise healthy infants often have strong radial pulses.

Another important assessment is &lt;i&gt;pulsus paradoxus&lt;/i&gt;. Atrial fibrillation and premature beats are conditions that will not always produce as many radial pulses as ventricular contractions. Auscultating for an apical pulse (fancy for listen to the heart beat) will allow you to assess for this. This is also a good way to compare the pediatric pulse and can help to maintain count on some of those fast baby pulse rates.

While some books will claim that PVCsand/or PJCs and/or PACs will produce a pulse, while the others will not, there is no good rteason why a premature beat &lt;b&gt;must&lt;/b&gt; or &lt;b&gt;must not&lt;/b&gt; produce a pulse. Whether a pulse is produced depends on so many more things than just where a premature beat is coming from. Even if I know what kind of premature beats I am dealing with, will it change my treatment? 

No. I do not believe in antiarrhythmics for more than 6 PVCs/minute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the links.</p>
<p>I like to assess level of consciousness and both radial pulses at the same time as my initial assessments. Those two pieces of information can provide more information than most of the rest of the assessment. </p>
<p>it amazes me how many people ask me what I am doing, when I am marking the pedal pulses on a patient who is, or will be, immobilized. While capillary refill is a secondary way of assessing circulation, it does not provide as much information as a pulse.</p>
<p>I am not a fan of using the brachial pulse for infants for two reasons. Most people have a hard time finding the brachial pulse on any patient and may assess this pulse less than once a year. Yes, we should assess the brachial pulse on every patient with the blood pressure, but how many people do you know who do that? With so little experience, will their assessment be worth much?</p>
<p>Kids tend to stress people out, so checking for an unfamiliar pulse <b>and</b> checking on a child may be very stressful. Stress and tactile skill often do not go together.</p>
<p><b>And</b> otherwise healthy infants often have strong radial pulses.</p>
<p>Another important assessment is <i>pulsus paradoxus</i>. Atrial fibrillation and premature beats are conditions that will not always produce as many radial pulses as ventricular contractions. Auscultating for an apical pulse (fancy for listen to the heart beat) will allow you to assess for this. This is also a good way to compare the pediatric pulse and can help to maintain count on some of those fast baby pulse rates.</p>
<p>While some books will claim that PVCsand/or PJCs and/or PACs will produce a pulse, while the others will not, there is no good rteason why a premature beat <b>must</b> or <b>must not</b> produce a pulse. Whether a pulse is produced depends on so many more things than just where a premature beat is coming from. Even if I know what kind of premature beats I am dealing with, will it change my treatment? </p>
<p>No. I do not believe in antiarrhythmics for more than 6 PVCs/minute.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 06:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the distinction should be made between checking the pulse during your initial assessment and that of the physical exam.  Accurate rate doesn&#039;t matter on that initial contact, as you describe, but it should be an accurate count after you have managed life-threatening issues.  

Another point I would raise is that the time spent checking the pulse rate should be extended when the patient is hypothermic or when the rate is irregular.

Beyond that, I think this is a great explanation of the pulse check.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the distinction should be made between checking the pulse during your initial assessment and that of the physical exam.  Accurate rate doesn&#8217;t matter on that initial contact, as you describe, but it should be an accurate count after you have managed life-threatening issues.  </p>
<p>Another point I would raise is that the time spent checking the pulse rate should be extended when the patient is hypothermic or when the rate is irregular.</p>
<p>Beyond that, I think this is a great explanation of the pulse check.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 04:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant believe there wasn&#039;t a single person that knew better than the dentist...</description>
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		<title>By: Trinzushi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trinzushi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 06:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good trick for beginner EMTs is to trace down the outside of the Patients thumb, just where the outside of their fingernail is, and follow the natural curve. It leads straight to the radial pulse. A few of the EMTs I&#039;ve helped have found this helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good trick for beginner EMTs is to trace down the outside of the Patients thumb, just where the outside of their fingernail is, and follow the natural curve. It leads straight to the radial pulse. A few of the EMTs I&#8217;ve helped have found this helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 21:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes, I find it hard to keep a pulse once I find it on a patient. I&#039;ll be checking the pulse in the back of the rig, and I&#039;ll stop feeling it. Is there any trick that could help me? Could it just be that gap that was talked about on the BP post you have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, I find it hard to keep a pulse once I find it on a patient. I&#8217;ll be checking the pulse in the back of the rig, and I&#8217;ll stop feeling it. Is there any trick that could help me? Could it just be that gap that was talked about on the BP post you have?</p>
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		<title>By: The EMT Spot &#187; The Ultimate EMT Guide to Vital Signs</title>
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		<dc:creator>The EMT Spot &#187; The Ultimate EMT Guide to Vital Signs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 14:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steve Whitehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 20:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, good trick Alan, I like it. Thanks for sharing.</description>
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		<title>By: Alan McGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 18:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One trick we were thought in college, to find the bracial artery, stretch the arm out, draw an imaginary line from the wring finger stright up and 99.9% of the time youll find the pulse point, very handy when we were starting out doing bp&#039;s and its a tip i pass onto people who find it difficult palpating the artery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One trick we were thought in college, to find the bracial artery, stretch the arm out, draw an imaginary line from the wring finger stright up and 99.9% of the time youll find the pulse point, very handy when we were starting out doing bp&#8217;s and its a tip i pass onto people who find it difficult palpating the artery.</p>
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