Comments on: Hydrogen Sulfide Suicides Come To The U.S. http://theemtspot.com/2009/02/27/hydrogen-sulfide-suicide-come-to-the-us/ Medicine Moves Fast ... Keep Up. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:23:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: fortysix&two http://theemtspot.com/2009/02/27/hydrogen-sulfide-suicide-come-to-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-5744 fortysix&two Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:47:24 +0000 http://theemtspot.com/?p=320#comment-5744 In Japanese society (where this hydrogen sulfide suicide became popular), it is crucial to maintain harmony among one another, its a belief that is fully acknowledged and practiced. Once that harmony is disrupted, everyone suffers, and that is what they try to avoid, hence why there are so many suicides there. Many times, the individual will commit suicide due to disrupting that harmony (in whatever way) and the grief they bare which is created within in themselves and also received from others. I'm not saying that suicide is in any way encouraged there but it is a result of one of the many facets of the natural phenomenon - survival of the fittest. I think they hit the nail on the head with that concept because it is practiced in all of humanity but not always acknowledged or talked about... and it needs to be. Some people who choose to commit suicide are in a situation where their said "loved ones", family members and such, actually encourage them to go through with it. This can happen on a wide scale - among cohorts in a school or a small scale such as a small circle of family - a household. Most of the time its not said directly but the point is well received by the target. This can be done by anger, violence, abuse, neglect, etc. I'm not talking about the occasional "I wish you were never born", we all receive from our parents at one time or another. I'm talking about a unanimous decision that is felt and not always verbally communicated among family to give up on, alienate, and torment a member of the household until their existence is no longer present (however that may occur, moving out, complete estrangement, suicide, etc). Some causes of this are financial strain, dishonor, and complex, unresolvable, heavily emotional feuds - all which disrupt the harmony. The source is then picked and targeted. This is the human version of survival of the fittest within a group. I understand that yes, we are human and we are much more complex, but we are animals first. Animals leave their weak behind and the weak don't fight it, nor do any of the other members of the group (i.e. when a sibling quickly adopts the demeanor of their parents towards another sibling). This is a natural system set in place by biology to keep one weak animal from weakening the entire group. In that light, suicide becomes a respected and selfless act and in my personal opinion, I find it disgusting that humans have not found a more civilized way to carry this out. Sometimes suicide is NOT preventable and sometimes it is indeed the best option. I truly believe that physician assisted suicide should extend passed terminal illness into mental illness. There should be a designated age where its appropriate and a psychological evaluation beforehand. With as advanced as we are in absolutely everything, humans should not have to resort to committing a suicide that may put others at risk and one which also leaves a gruesome image in the minds of the people who find them. We need to wake up and realize that this WILL continue to happen, no matter what we say or do, its NATURE, we cant control it, but what we CAN control is how it happens. In Japanese society (where this hydrogen sulfide suicide became popular), it is crucial to maintain harmony among one another, its a belief that is fully acknowledged and practiced. Once that harmony is disrupted, everyone suffers, and that is what they try to avoid, hence why there are so many suicides there. Many times, the individual will commit suicide due to disrupting that harmony (in whatever way) and the grief they bare which is created within in themselves and also received from others. I’m not saying that suicide is in any way encouraged there but it is a result of one of the many facets of the natural phenomenon – survival of the fittest. I think they hit the nail on the head with that concept because it is practiced in all of humanity but not always acknowledged or talked about… and it needs to be. Some people who choose to commit suicide are in a situation where their said “loved ones”, family members and such, actually encourage them to go through with it. This can happen on a wide scale – among cohorts in a school or a small scale such as a small circle of family – a household. Most of the time its not said directly but the point is well received by the target. This can be done by anger, violence, abuse, neglect, etc. I’m not talking about the occasional “I wish you were never born”, we all receive from our parents at one time or another. I’m talking about a unanimous decision that is felt and not always verbally communicated among family to give up on, alienate, and torment a member of the household until their existence is no longer present (however that may occur, moving out, complete estrangement, suicide, etc). Some causes of this are financial strain, dishonor, and complex, unresolvable, heavily emotional feuds – all which disrupt the harmony. The source is then picked and targeted. This is the human version of survival of the fittest within a group. I understand that yes, we are human and we are much more complex, but we are animals first. Animals leave their weak behind and the weak don’t fight it, nor do any of the other members of the group (i.e. when a sibling quickly adopts the demeanor of their parents towards another sibling). This is a natural system set in place by biology to keep one weak animal from weakening the entire group. In that light, suicide becomes a respected and selfless act and in my personal opinion, I find it disgusting that humans have not found a more civilized way to carry this out. Sometimes suicide is NOT preventable and sometimes it is indeed the best option. I truly believe that physician assisted suicide should extend passed terminal illness into mental illness. There should be a designated age where its appropriate and a psychological evaluation beforehand. With as advanced as we are in absolutely everything, humans should not have to resort to committing a suicide that may put others at risk and one which also leaves a gruesome image in the minds of the people who find them. We need to wake up and realize that this WILL continue to happen, no matter what we say or do, its NATURE, we cant control it, but what we CAN control is how it happens.

]]> By: Joyce http://theemtspot.com/2009/02/27/hydrogen-sulfide-suicide-come-to-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-5484 Joyce Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:57:26 +0000 http://theemtspot.com/?p=320#comment-5484 My son killed himself last year in his college parking lot - he was only 18.... Just want to share what a wonderful soul he was.... This was on 5/5/10... abcnews.go.com/Health/Depression/chemical-suicide- My son killed himself last year in his college parking lot – he was only 18…. Just want to share what a wonderful soul he was…. This was on 5/5/10…

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]]> By: RussianRoulette http://theemtspot.com/2009/02/27/hydrogen-sulfide-suicide-come-to-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-5455 RussianRoulette Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:32:39 +0000 http://theemtspot.com/?p=320#comment-5455 It's not enough to stick around for loves ones. Now THAT is selfish. Is it better to force someone just you could feel beter or is it better to let that person go free knowing he was in too much pain. Why do you think people commit suicide without letting anyone know. PEOPLE SHAME IT, they JUDGE IT and it will never be the same when you KNOW the person is suicidal (talking about experience). Life isn't for everyone, yes suicide causes suffering for both family friends but that's the GAME. It's LIFE! You accept it the moment you are forced into existence by selfish parents who want to full their lives at your expense. Do not procreate, it's russian roulette. It’s not enough to stick around for loves ones. Now THAT is selfish. Is it better to force someone just you could feel beter or is it better to let that person go free knowing he was in too much pain. Why do you think people commit suicide without letting anyone know. PEOPLE SHAME IT, they JUDGE IT and it will never be the same when you KNOW the person is suicidal (talking about experience).

Life isn’t for everyone, yes suicide causes suffering for both family friends but that’s the GAME. It’s LIFE! You accept it the moment you are forced into existence by selfish parents who want to full their lives at your expense. Do not procreate, it’s russian roulette.

]]> By: nancy http://theemtspot.com/2009/02/27/hydrogen-sulfide-suicide-come-to-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-5396 nancy Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:35:59 +0000 http://theemtspot.com/?p=320#comment-5396 I am the daughter of a man who killed himself. It happened over 40 years ago and I will never get over it. I know the suffering he and other suicidal people go through as I too am suicidal. There's no easy answer to the moral question of whether someone in unbearable psychological pain "owes" it to another person to keep suffering that pain to avoid hurting the other person. I believe it depends on the situation. I strongly believe that parents with children of any age under say 20 have a moral obligation to hang on until their children are of age. A legacy of suicide is a terrible thing to leave your children. They will never forget it. I also think that people need to be better educated about the signs of a pending suicide. Sometimes but not always the suicide ambivalently reaches out or sends signs that he or she is about to commit suicide. Often these clues are missed by people who do not recognize them. I was too young to have recognized these signs in him or to have helped my father, but later learned that he was broadcasting the "help me" signs to my relatives. They did not see the signs. I don't blame them. It was ignorance. If I could have, I would have done ANYTHING to save him. His knowledge of this fact and my great love for him may or may not have helped or deterred him, but sadly, I will never know. I am the daughter of a man who killed himself. It happened over 40 years ago and I will never get over it. I know the suffering he and other suicidal people go through as I too am suicidal. There’s no easy answer to the moral question of whether someone in unbearable psychological pain “owes” it to another person to keep suffering that pain to avoid hurting the other person. I believe it depends on the situation. I strongly believe that parents with children of any age under say 20 have a moral obligation to hang on until their children are of age. A legacy of suicide is a terrible thing to leave your children. They will never forget it.

I also think that people need to be better educated about the signs of a pending suicide. Sometimes but not always the suicide ambivalently reaches out or sends signs that he or she is about to commit suicide. Often these clues are missed by people who do not recognize them. I was too young to have recognized these signs in him or to have helped my father, but later learned that he was broadcasting the “help me” signs to my relatives. They did not see the signs. I don’t blame them. It was ignorance.

If I could have, I would have done ANYTHING to save him. His knowledge of this fact and my great love for him may or may not have helped or deterred him, but sadly, I will never know.

]]> By: bob http://theemtspot.com/2009/02/27/hydrogen-sulfide-suicide-come-to-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-5394 bob Sat, 18 Jun 2011 14:49:26 +0000 http://theemtspot.com/?p=320#comment-5394 filthy hit it right on the head. ik of a kid who just did this terrible thing to himself. you dont have the right to choose if you live or die. you are cast into this world and from then on it is your choice to wander or succeed. assuming god does not exist, you are still being incredibly selfish if you kill yourself. people will need you at some point. the fact that you, dave" is willing to label filthy as selfish is as idiotic as you can get. grow a pair and get through the day. just because youre a failure in life (or a failure as far as you see it) does not mean you can let someone, be it your family, who nurtured you, or a neighbor who was taking a walk, see you in that state. even if you had simple suicide methods with little or no clean up youre still leaving those who care about you behind. filthy hit it right on the head. ik of a kid who just did this terrible thing to himself. you dont have the right to choose if you live or die. you are cast into this world and from then on it is your choice to wander or succeed. assuming god does not exist, you are still being incredibly selfish if you kill yourself. people will need you at some point. the fact that you, dave” is willing to label filthy as selfish is as idiotic as you can get. grow a pair and get through the day. just because youre a failure in life (or a failure as far as you see it) does not mean you can let someone, be it your family, who nurtured you, or a neighbor who was taking a walk, see you in that state. even if you had simple suicide methods with little or no clean up youre still leaving those who care about you behind.

]]> By: Fred R. http://theemtspot.com/2009/02/27/hydrogen-sulfide-suicide-come-to-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-5377 Fred R. Tue, 07 Jun 2011 22:47:06 +0000 http://theemtspot.com/?p=320#comment-5377 Well to commit suicide,there's an easier way. Cleaner too. Just obtain a syringe and a needle. Inject an air bubble in a vein. Simple. Euthanasia should be legalized anyway. If everything gets to be too much,just go. Good Luck!! Well to commit suicide,there’s an easier way. Cleaner too. Just obtain a syringe and a needle. Inject an air bubble in a vein. Simple. Euthanasia should be legalized anyway. If everything gets to be too much,just go. Good Luck!!

]]> By: Ted R http://theemtspot.com/2009/02/27/hydrogen-sulfide-suicide-come-to-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-5366 Ted R Wed, 01 Jun 2011 15:25:38 +0000 http://theemtspot.com/?p=320#comment-5366 A friend killed himself this month by creating and inhaling hydrogen sulfide. He was found unconcious, lingered in a coma at the hospital for a week, then died- leaving 2 girls without a father, and his wife, family and friends devistated. If he had stabbed everyone he knew with a knife, it would not bve as painful as his suicide. This act will destroy his daughter'c childhoods. They are devistated. Good friend, but now he's burning in Hell. What a waste. A friend killed himself this month by creating and inhaling hydrogen sulfide. He was found unconcious, lingered in a coma at the hospital for a week, then died- leaving 2 girls without a father, and his wife, family and friends devistated. If he had stabbed everyone he knew with a knife, it would not bve as painful as his suicide. This act will destroy his daughter’c childhoods. They are devistated.
Good friend, but now he’s burning in Hell. What a waste.

]]> By: Dave http://theemtspot.com/2009/02/27/hydrogen-sulfide-suicide-come-to-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4329 Dave Fri, 26 Nov 2010 09:10:30 +0000 http://theemtspot.com/?p=320#comment-4329 @ Filthy "even though this was all very traumatic and scarring I never once thought of ending my life because I care far too much for the people I’d leave behind." Wow are you self-righteous and presumptuous. It couldn't be that some people have a lower capacity for pain or have suffered more or have less things to live for, no your just more caring than they are. "Someone is going to have to clean up after you, even if you use the cleanest method of killing yourself. Someone is going to have to pay to autopsy your body if you have no-one else to do so. Someone is going to have to pay to cremate you or bury you," You know what else requires all of this? Natural death. Everyone dies eventually, and someone is going to have to clean it up. So let me get this straight, suicide is selfish, but expecting someone to continue on in a joyless tormenting life just because you like seeing them walk around isn't? Give me a break. No one agrees to being born, so it is selfish and controlling to claim that they have some sort of duty to die against their will. @ Filthy “even though this was all very traumatic and scarring I never once thought of ending my life because I care far too much for the people I’d leave behind.”

Wow are you self-righteous and presumptuous. It couldn’t be that some people have a lower capacity for pain or have suffered more or have less things to live for, no your just more caring than they are.

“Someone is going to have to clean up after you, even if you use the cleanest method of killing yourself. Someone is going to have to pay to autopsy your body if you have no-one else to do so. Someone is going to have to pay to cremate you or bury you,”

You know what else requires all of this? Natural death. Everyone dies eventually, and someone is going to have to clean it up.

So let me get this straight, suicide is selfish, but expecting someone to continue on in a joyless tormenting life just because you like seeing them walk around isn’t? Give me a break. No one agrees to being born, so it is selfish and controlling to claim that they have some sort of duty to die against their will.

]]> By: Max http://theemtspot.com/2009/02/27/hydrogen-sulfide-suicide-come-to-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4232 Max Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:10:33 +0000 http://theemtspot.com/?p=320#comment-4232 http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/discovery_of_body_outside_amhe.html http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/11/discovery_of_body_outside_amhe.html

]]> By: Abi http://theemtspot.com/2009/02/27/hydrogen-sulfide-suicide-come-to-the-us/comment-page-1/#comment-4175 Abi Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:34:21 +0000 http://theemtspot.com/?p=320#comment-4175 Yesterday, my friends youngest brother killed himself with a gas that had an odor, turned him green, was made with a gardening supply, and almost killed his parents and all the animals in the house in doing so, is this hydrogen sulfide, and yes it was over a break-up that happened a year ago, he was only 18 or 19 Yesterday, my friends youngest brother killed himself with a gas that had an odor, turned him green, was made with a gardening supply, and almost killed his parents and all the animals in the house in doing so, is this hydrogen sulfide, and yes it was over a break-up that happened a year ago, he was only 18 or 19

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